May
18
2007
Were you ever a Christian before you became an atheist?
Absolutely! I laugh now at all the arguments I had (and lost) with other atheist back then. Of course, at that time, I didn’t see it as losing the argument. I just said to myself: “they don’t have faith” and moved on. Thankfully, I didn’t stay ignorant, I got educated and the rest happened naturally.
When I think back about how I slowly started seeing the truth and became less and less of a believer, I sincerely believe that this will occur throughout society. Assuming we don’t destroy ourselves first, of course. We as a people have a natural curiosity, it was this curiosity that created religion in the first place, to answer the questions that we couldn’t answer otherwise at that time. And it is this same curiosity that will slowly erode away at religious dogma until it is nothing more than a field of study for historians. I don’t expect it to happen quickly, it may take many hundreds of years more before it is completely gone but science has answers, real, tangible answers. Religion attempts to fill in the blanks but the blanks are getting smaller and smaller all the time. There will be a time when religion has no further purpose in our society as an answers provider. This, I believe, is why the religious authorities are waging such a fierce battle against science now. They know that science is a religion nullifier. But people like the real and tangible answers that science provides. They like the medicine that makes them live longer and they like the technologies that make their lives easier and more fun. Science is the reason they have these things and religion can’t replace them. Science will prevail, I’m just glad I’m on the right side and I know this because knowledge beats faith every time.
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May
17
2007
What is your atheist testimony?
I’ve never really thought of having a testimony. Since it is something you provide when you are trying to prove something to someone, i.e. prove something to a jury in a court of law. And I’ve never really tried to prove to anyone that atheism is truth. I don’t even think of atheism that way. Atheism isn’t a way of life. It isn’t something you believe and think about. I don’t think “atheist thoughts”, I do think about theism and note its flaws and inconsistencies but I don’t think about atheism and think “now they have the right idea”. Atheism isn’t something, it is a name given to nothing. You don’t believe in atheism, you are simply an atheist when you are not a theist. A theist is something you have to have beliefs to be, an atheist is not. I don’t need to prove atheism is correct or right, I just have to prove that theism is not correct. It shows a great lack of understanding of what it means to be atheist just to ask for such a thing as “atheist testimony”. The easiest way I can think to explain this is with this analogy, lets substitute believer for theist and non-believer for atheist. Now if someone tells you a story about unicorns and says they exist somewhere in this universe, you can either believe them or not, if you do, you are a believer and if not, you are a non-believer. Now you might ask the person for their testimony to prove that there are unicorns somewhere in the universe but you wouldn’t expect the non-believer to provide proof that there are not unicorns somewhere in this universe, no testimony is required of the non-believer, only the believer has the burden of proof.
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May
16
2007
What life experiences did you have to make you believe there is no god?
I’ll answer this question twice; the first is the answer to the question that is asked. The second is the answer to the question that is implied.
The simple answer to this question is education. The one and only life experience that I would attribute to my disbelief in god is getting an education. My philosophy, logic and science classes were the keys to unlocking my mind. They were like the Rosetta stone that decoded all the questions that I had but didn’t think had answers. They made me question the beliefs that I had always taken for granted. I stopped thinking “the answer doesn’t matter, God did it”, and started finding answers to my questions.
I think many theists find it very difficult to understand what makes a person disbelieve and they assume it has to be some kind of act of retaliation or retribution against god for some perceived wrong done on his part. I can say, unequivocally, that I am not in some state of denial and I’m not retaliating against god because I don’t believe he has given me something I believe I deserve. Now after the fact, after I realized that there is no god, I did start to admit to some things that happened in my life that I don’t see a just and good god causing or even allowing happening, but they have nothing to do with the reason I don’t believe in god. In fact, there were a few life experiences that I believed were proof positive that there was a god, when I was a believer. Now I realize that it is much more reasonable to assume that they were a coincidence, not even that unlikely of a coincidence for that matter. In short, none of these life experiences, whether negative or positive, had any bearing on my rational belief that there is no god.
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May
15
2007
Here are some questions that I want to answer. They were asked on a YouTube video by this guy who talks like he is drunk but I don’t think he is. I’ll answer each question in separate post due to their length.
How did you become an atheist?
The short answer is… I started to think. Some people will consider that some kind of self-rightous way of insulting theist but I don’t mean it that way. It didn’t happen overnight. But I can remember, very vividly, the actual moment that I admitted it to myself. Having, over a period of years, already, come to the conclusion that there was no proof that there was a god, I was hanging on Pascal’s Wager. One day I asked myself, “wouldn’t god know that I only believe in him as some sort of insurance policy?” The answer was “if the god that I believed in does exist, yes, he will know that I don’t truly believe in him and yes he will still send me to hell.” So my next question was “Can I restore my faith?” After much thought, I realized that I couldn’t. I had gained too much knowledge of how things worked. I had been introduced to logic and reason and there was no turning back. I was not going to turn my back on something as inarguably true as logic in favor of blind faith. So, it was apparent at that point that I no longer believed in god. And even after that, 20 years of indoctrination didn’t want to give up. I would frequently have mini-panic attacks. “What if I am wrong?” But the answer is clear to me. First, looking at the world around me, it is undeniable that it is designed according to rules. We may not understand all of them or even know about some of them but they exist. Now let’s suppose that some intelligence created these rules and set everything in motion. I’ll refer to this intelligence as a masculine god from here forward. Let’s, even, suppose that we, humans, hold some special meaning to him, that he specifically guided our evolution so that we would gain intelligence like no other creature on this planet. Now I ask myself, why would god do that? Would he create rules and give us the ability to understand them and then expect us to ignore them. Because that is what asking us to believe in god does. It asks us to ignore the rules of logic and believe in something without any evidence. I don’t believe that. I believe that, if I’m wrong and there is a god, he doesn’t give a rat’s ass whether I believe in him or not. In fact, I believe that if this god does exist, he would not want me to believe in him. So I don’t believe in god. In fact, based on the facts as I know them, I believe there is no god. Thankfully, as I educated myself more in the rules of logic and science, I became surer that I was correct and no longer have those moments of doubt that I may be wrong.
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May
10
2007
Whew! It’s been so long since my last post that I almost couldn’t remember my password to log on.
Okay, I’ve been waiting a week now for this video to be posted on ABCNews.com of the debate with Kirk Cameron where he was going to prove scientifically, without the use of faith, etc. that God exist. Now being a reasonable person who understands science, I knew this was impossible, unless he redefined the meaning of God or something. But I was hoping for entertainment, none the less. I love to hear theist arguments. It is very helpful to see how my beliefs once paralleled theirs and to contrast that with what I believe (know) now. I was very disappointed though. Ignoring the fact that he did attempt to use the Bible as well as other acts of faith to “prove” Gods existence, his argument can basically be summed up to “We know paintings, cars, houses, etc. require a creator by their very existence. Therefore we know the universe has a creator by its very existence.” This argument is a logical fallacy. It is called affirming the consequent. It is like me saying “When it rains, the street is wet. The street is wet now so it must have rained.” However that is not the only reason the street could be wet, perhaps a street cleaner just came through and cleaned the street which left it wet. So he failed, miserably, to prove anything scientifically as logical fallacies are definitely not allowed in scientific proofs!
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